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Women Dress for Other WomenFrom
dhorne@direct.ca Sat Jan 24 On wrote: >On >Marsha
posted: >>Well,hon,someone's
got to wear the panties around here. And yes, it is a strange fact that a lot of
cd'ers dress more
feminine than their real counterparts. I find that I fall into that
group. The last few "girls" I dated, I almost felt compelled to loan
them some lingerie. hee hee >>Personally,
I look forward very much to your input and hope you share with us often. I'm a
newbie myself, but the learning curve has been rather enjoyable and the people
certainly patient. >>Take
Care, Marsha On the
rare occasions I travel to the nearby civic center, it is pleasurable to me to
see women, dressed as women! Suits, Dresses. Hose, Heels. I sure
wish I could see more of it. I'm so tired of jeans and sweats, etc. Sigh! Joanie Well,
actually it’s not so strange that us girls mostly dress more feminine
than many GG's. It’s what we want to do and the whole point of the thing.
I mean, it’s not a problem for me to look like a man, I am one.
Boring eh? Looking like a woman is the fun part of the equation and the
challenge. As for
Joanie's point, it’s an issue of freedom. I love dressing. It takes a
certain amount of time and effort to bring Danny into the world, but
its what I choose to do. For many years GG's didn't have the
choice. They had to do it. When I was in school [another era girls]
females couldn't wear pants and you try working an eight hour shift
behind a counter in heels! Now women
have the freedom to go casual and many of them choose to do that. I'm
not going to tell them that they can't. I just wish
that we had
the same kind of acceptance and freedom. The darker
side of this picture is that many women choose to disguise their
femininity so as to avoid being harassed and bothered by males. If one
studies the figures on sexual assault and rape, it’s not hard to find
reasons for this point of view. Having
said all of that, let me also say that I share Joanie's take on the
passing scene. It sure would be nice to see more femininity around! Danny From
SJVZ06A@prodigy.com Sat Jan 24 I think
that dressing more feminine is the case, because for many, when we have the time
to dress it is still a thrill to do so. I know several ft cd's that have found,
the time to dress in full female dress or business
dress, full make up. After a while it does get a bit routine. I dress in
a manner that exhibits what I admire most about females. Nice attire, hose,
heels, lingerie, with a hint of sexiness. Kathy M. From
(deleted by request) Tue Jan 27 Seen a
couple requests for Cols. info. so I will try to
help out. Wall Street is
a pretty fun dance club, they have drag shows on Sun. nights. Most of the gay
bars are pretty TV friendly. The Garage, The Eagle, Tradewinds, Tabu,Treemont
Ect. They are a little cruisy, but at least they offer a safe place to go out at
night without people making fun. Several of these bars also ocassionally have
shows or pagents. Pick up a copy of Bar Trash magazine for listings of events.
Call their office at 614-228-5845. Another good resource for Please
post to newsgroup...No e-mail Nicole From
briar@bandannabooks.com In article
<34EC5898.7C49@hotmail.com>, Joy1950@hotmail.com wrote: >
Cassiopeia wrote: <snip> > >
BTW, one of the reasons I think FABs are usually good with clothing is learning
by trial and error. My wife can spend literally
hours trying this dress with every other assorted accessory. I like to
try things out as well, but have to admit that she's far more persistent than me
<g>. Cassiopeia I think
you are right about the trial and error part. Whenever trying to combine colors
of something, (clothes or otherwise), it seems to make a great deal to me even
though no one will see it, and so it goes on like that. For some reason, unless
I choose it right that day, it 'don't work' for me. Maybe not for a FAB either. <snip> Joy It really
shocked me when I realized how much time it takes to dress. And now that I
notice such things, I care about how I look and how people perceive me. This
wasn't what I expected "being a woman" would be about --and of course
there's a lot more to it -- but there is something to the idea that a woman creates a personality for the day or part of a day by
costuming. So, if that's so, it means a lot more flexibility and range --and
daring. I used to have a great prejudice against fashion; now it seems an
essential dimension of living. (And I don't mean necessarily the male lords of
fashion, I mean watching other women, watching ads, watching everywhere for
inspiration). So, the
term "cross-dressing" is as important for the "dressing"
part as for the "crossing" part. I dress different, I feel different,
I am different. For me, this existential part is more important that the sexual
element (of course that could be my age showing, now that for some activities I
am a "senior citizen." Sure don't feel like one.). OK, I know
dressing isn't the only thing. All I'm trying to say is that I had never
realized that these feelings were ever repressed. Now that I have them, shopping
makes sense, women evaluating other women makes sense, endless preening in front
of mirrors makes sense. I forget who said it (sorry!) in this newsgroup, but let
me repeat it: women dress for other women. Men
mostly never notice anyway. Comments? BriarKnowledge What do we
really know, and how do we know it? From
Katheryn@bellsouth.net Fri Feb 20 Georgeann
wrote: > Hi, > My
Name is Georgeann. I am a crossdresser who has been searching for >
information as to what is going on. I found many interesting web pages, and they
led to this NG. I found this group by a newsgroup scan, since the other TV
groups I had found were 99% SPAM and this one seemed free of it. It seems we
will now be infiltrated by it since our SPAM gaurdian has left....(Joanie, come
home!!!!) > I
have been reading here and ASC for a few weeks, sent a couple of replies.
I want to let everyone know I am here. Welcome,
and please, be active, the more voices in the choir, the better the sound! > I am
in my forties, Yeah, me
too. Most guys buy a sports car and get a girlfriend in a tight dress. I saved
thousands by simply buying the dress. >
married to a wonderful GG who is quite supportive of what I do. I think a
lot of the FABs would love a CD SO, after all, when most hubbies get asked to go
along on a shopping excursion, particularly for women's clothes, they have to be
dragged (so to speak) kicking and screaming along. Most CD's
are in the car before the wife finishes the invite...... > She
helps me shop and select, and get "Prettied Up". Yes, some
FAB's love having a real life Barbie doll to dress up. > I
have been interested in CD for a few years, but did not understand why or how to
stop. I wrestled
with that demon til I realized I was wrestling with myself. Once I understood
that it didn't matter exactly why I did it, and that people wouldn't all hate me
for doing it, I quit trying to stop. > Well,
I have learned more, and know that I am a crossdresser, and as to why, I still
don't know. Who cares!
Nice outfit, by the way...... ;) > But
we do accept it. Acceptance is more than a lot of people grant themselves. I
find there is a lot of support here among regulars. I know there is the normal
family type disagreements, but they should remain in proper perspective, and we
all should work toward a single goal. Yeah,
except for that damn Katheryn bitch and her overlong posts!!!! ;) > I
know some people are talking about dressing part or full time. I don't think
that has any bearing on this group, as both are still CDs. Yes, my
point, and the point of quite a few of the sisters on here as well. Let's all
just enjoy the clothes and leave the semantics to the real slime..... You
know... The lawyers.... > Hugs,
Georgeann Hugs to
you, too! KDM >Dear
kim, Congratulations
on your coming out. As for you I too came out to may Wife of 20 years only 4
months ago. We have come a long way in those 4 months. Although Beth (my Wife)
is not totally accepting, She is tolerating as to my dressing in her presence.
The most that help our situation was talking and honesty with the help from
everyone on this NG and contacts at a couple for Local Support groups one being
Tri-ess. Beth has
also been seeing a Marriage counsel familar with the transgender issues, which
has been a help to her. Please continue talking and being honest with your wife,
its the best therapy out there. Although it real helpful for you and her to have
other contacts. Beth would love to correspond with your wife. Just send e-mail
to us. She is helping others found her already. She is also signed up to a List
server for Wives only, CDSO. We can
help her get started if she wants. It’s only for wives of crossdressers and
real helpful for issues from the other side. I only wish I were in your shoes
young and out, at 46 I waited too long. But still have enough youth to enjoy
both lives. Rochelle
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